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welcome to behind the paranormal with

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Paul and Ben II know how often have you

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seen strange even astounding

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coincidences in your life is there some

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meaning purpose or power behind them are

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they coincidences at all hey there and

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welcome to the 550 540 8th edition of

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behind the paranormal with Paul and

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Benji no I am Ben endows lofty questions

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came for my co-host and partner in the

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paranormal my dad in this evening we

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have a very distinguished guests with us

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on the subject that concerns everyone

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but is seldom covered and we welcome

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your calls this evening of course the

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numbers are 40 1766 1240 that's locally

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or anywhere from us or canada 800 449

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1240 our guest this evening is one of

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the greatest names in the paranormal and

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this is his 2nd appearance on the show

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UFO and peril paranormal pioneer author

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and publisher and producer timothy green

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beckley aka mr UFO is probably the

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longest standing and most famous of all

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UFO investigators he says that the

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paranormal has been part of his life

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since childhood he reports having his

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first out of the body experience at age

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six and saw his first three UFOs at the

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age of 10 in the early 1970s he founded

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the UFO investigators league and over

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the years has written over 30 books on

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everything from rock music to the secret

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majestic-12 UFO papers inner light

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global communications conspiracy journal

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Abelar than all other own and other

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names are imprints of Tim's publishing

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company he keeps the rarest and most

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unique books on the subjects of

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conspiracies UFOs aliens Giants Bigfoot

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etc in print and available for all

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researchers his works are the source

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material for a number of History Channel

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shows on UFOs aliens men in black

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ancient aliens and more is the author of

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mystery of the men in black the UFO

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silencers with an intro by the late

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great John keel and as I understand it

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beginning today and lasting through

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Friday we understand that his book UFOs

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wicked this way comes the dark side of

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the ultra terrestrials is available free

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online we'll ask him about that

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hopefully I got it right his websites

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WWE hidden mysteries com Tesla secret

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which when I last looked I was surprised

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to see how to quote for me in the home

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page so Tim beckley welcome to behind

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the paranormal well you know I this is

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the second time on your show but the

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third time on your station because I

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would I was one of the first shows that

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I ever did where I actually had a travel

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out of town in those days there was no

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internet and in fact we were still using

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twenty cent postage stamps Joe farrier

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course it was on the station for many

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many years was a friend of mine and he

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had me up in the studio and in fact I

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was just thinkin the other night there

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was a newspaper called midnight which is

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now the globe you know she sold at the

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checkout counter in the supermarket and

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there was a photo in of me and Joe

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besides the microphone and I was so

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young I had a crew cut black horn-rimmed

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glasses and I still had acne on my face

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was you know of my late did a teens or

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even before that perhaps oh uh I'm an

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old champion of wound and I'm glad to be

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on and yes I am giving away a free book

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aren't I crazy oh that's right what's up

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tell us about its it's wonderful to have

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you back Jillian so but it's so good to

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be back with you guys are you you have

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one of the top-rated shows on the

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paranormal and one of the few people in

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the what I call it business but it's

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hard to call idea this what we do a

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business one of the most what's the word

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sensible minds and sensible approaches

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to all this weird this well thank you

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very much Tim desk oh yeah deuter we do

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try to to reach that standard much as we

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try to let to levitate less than two

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feet above the ground if we get the

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receipt if we can do it we did I know

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although I know Ben is doing more than

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that when your back is turned four

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unfortunately doesn't remember so I'm

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not neither of us knows about yeah yeah

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only they don't know he's directly sure

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that that's how we reach the cookie jar

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when he was a kid oh that always that

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what it was yeah I didn't want to didn't

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want to tell you okay well statute of

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limitations is up but the Joe farrier is

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still very much loved and very much

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missed around northern without here and

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it's I remember you having said that

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last time you were run yes that's right

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yeah in fact I do we get column for a

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new website is closed UFO press and what

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websites in providing links for people

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so as they read along the column if you

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click on the link or cut and paste or

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whatever you copy and paste and go right

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to the spot so I have that linked up

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with a show number I believe it's a 2009

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show 60 or 20 there's two numbers there

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so people can just in here that very

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important show that you did which is the

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only place that they can hear you and

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jose the voice as far as i know still

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left on the internet anyway yeah that's

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it and that's it and that has more hits

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than most of the shows for that year yes

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miss me to the valley i think it is

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there's no mysteries of blackstone

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valley those are Blackstone Valley miss

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Hyatt and I was listening to that last

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night as I toss and turn in my loft bed

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here oh there you go it's got a couple

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of great stories there but anyway on

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with the the evening okay very good

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Ben's gonna start us off indeed so Tim

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the Renaissance man that you are we can

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talk about anything with you as this

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first like six minutes has indicated but

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this is for those you know a lot of

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things are enough to get all that's

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right up right here with it Oh indeed so

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mostly mostly on synchronicities so

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synchronicity and a coincidence or is

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there a difference yeah you know office

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if if there is I don't I don't know what

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it is but synchronicities you know have

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played a large part in in in my life

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lately it's getting really totally

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bizarre and I've become convinced that

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synchronicities are the next EVPs and

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maybe some type of code just like you

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would find in a a crop circle and I did

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this more it's more than just a random

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chance I mean these bizarre things and

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I'll explain what some of them are as we

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go along I think somewhere out there

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someone or something is facilitating the

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show now I call them the management but

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creative force philip k dick the famous

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science fiction writer e.fern remembers

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incidences that were synchronicities or

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coincidences that were very bizarre

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including this as the appearance of a

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woman is the door and when he opened the

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door he got shot with some sort of pink

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ray and fellow Tim and he started having

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all these bizarre thing happening in

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life and you know Charles fourth the

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famous a writer who collected all sorts

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of bizarre scientific tidbits like the

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full of frogs and fish and animal matter

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from the sky and mysterious

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disappearances he said that the life on

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game and that we were but pawns for

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something you know else in the universe

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that there is a something out there that

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is either setting us in a direction or

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has a message for us that we have to

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decode or at least is trying to convince

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us of there exists existence you know

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guys it's like here a study tries to

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send out and receive radio signals from

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the stars but suppose they don't listen

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to your show out there I mean where they

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know this is a half as I don't listen to

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anybody's you know show we're thinking

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that we're setting

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with the you know earphones a bouncing

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around in some bubble listening to top

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you know to top 40 and perhaps they

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don't enjoy that perhaps they have

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another way of communicating and I think

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that other way is through

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synchronicities now it could be that

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they're not from out there I'm more

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inclined to believe that a lot of what's

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going on is not a celestial phenomena

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but is a terrestrial phenomena and and

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so synchronicities just keep playing a

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big you know a portion of my life now

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let me tell you a real this is a really

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strange at least to me thing that

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happened recently on a memorial day I

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was with my associate Carol Rodriguez

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who has been my assistant and she's a

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great artist she's been with me for many

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many years and it was such a nice day

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and I I don't get out I've had a few no

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health problems and so we decided well

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I'm in the middle of Manhattan here just

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not too far from the Empire State

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Building no she said well why don't we

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go over to this very nice park that just

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opened on the East River it's a haha

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Hudson Park and it's right on the river

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and it's just say they've just done a

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lot of construction on it and you know

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the lot of tourists are going there and

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they've got restaurants so forth and I

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said yes but I don't have a car and it's

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a little bit too far to to walk she said

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well in Manhattan it costs the 250 to

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get on the bus really 250 yes I'm had

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but I'm having about 40 years haha well

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neither if I actually a very very few

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times on I'm a big cat man but it would

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have been a little expensive to go for

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what you know to where I am doing all

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the way over to like eleventh or twelfth

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Avenue with a poor kid so she said oh

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you know if you show your credentials

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that your senior citizen which I am at

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the moment you get on for half price so

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that's a buck and a quarter and I said I

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oh geez well that's that's okay

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so we got to the bus stop and I'm you

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have to show ID to the bus driver to

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throw the change the little bucket or

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change collector whatever they have

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there so now I had it in my pocket in a

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little cup that I uses a parachuting a

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rattle in here to change in there and so

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my ID for me while I fish around for the

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the money so I I have the money in my

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hand and she says oh you know one of

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those the coins is a Canadian coin and

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the bus driver will get mad and you know

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throw you off the hell out here on the

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bus if you try to put it in the the

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change collector and also it won't fit i

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guess because it goes by weight or

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something so I said well hold out to all

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of this while I add well I find another

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quarter so far away I got my five

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quarters together and I threw the little

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change thing there and it goes playing

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playing doing and we sit down oh so

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before before I got on the bus I didn't

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know what to do with the Canadian coin

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right I didn't want to throw it out I

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mean that seems like a waste of money

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even though I didn't want to put it back

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in with the course because I'd end up

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doing the same thing again so I took

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that Canadian silver piece and I put it

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on the little bench at the bus stop

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where you would sit until the bus comes

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right all right I said maybe there'll be

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a tourist from Canada and they'll see if

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it picks it up and take it back to

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Toronto or something so that's what I

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did got on the bus we sat down and it

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took maybe seven or eight minutes to get

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over to our destination I get off the

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bus and as I get off the bus I see

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something shining on the sidewalk I

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picked it up it was an American corner

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it would have been on the exact spot

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where the bus bench would have been I

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hipster been a bench there but since

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there was no bench it was on the ground

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so I left a Canadian quarter before I

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got on the bus and there was my quarter

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back in American change the on the

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ground so I figured with the rate of

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exchange I might have come out about a

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penny and a half

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okay ahead on that yeah and then I use

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it yeah just like the bikers they would

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not you know the exchange money or

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something like that so now come on

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that's that kid you know that's that's

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not a coincidence I mean you don't leave

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a quarter and when you get on the bus

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and and and find one when you get off

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the bus unless somebody's playing a

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little trick with you you know up there

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and and some things like that that's

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kind of like totally out of the the

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realm of coincidence and as a

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synchronicity happens it seems almost on

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a regular basis like it speaking of

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Canada Tim I can tell you an amazing

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question lately my life has been full of

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coincidences do i wanna say lately I

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mean really the past by what you think

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one thing I I've started to work on an

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article putting all this together I

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don't know if I'm gonna sit here and

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write a book on it I I get you mentioned

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I've done 30 books actually since I'm a

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publisher I've done about 200 yeah yes

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I'm I'm a I'm about washed out as far as

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is that goes in fact I always tell

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people if you want to know what we've

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published just go to Amazon and type in

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Timothy G beckley and all our authors

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from pilaf sink rompa to Commander X the

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dim Schwartz Deshawn Castile will pop up

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and amaze you with the diversity but go

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ahead and your story okay well I'm big

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in the family history has been will tell

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you I bored him for hours with the

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stories of the ancestors but that's it's

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not pouring Emily you're talking less

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sure there's some quite a few characters

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in our line anyway yeah so well some

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well several months ago now I had seven

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my dues for an organization that has

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300,000 members in Canada it's

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canadian-based as a Veterans

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organization and so I sent that in and

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then two days later I happen to be

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looking for a particular ancestor online

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and there was one lonely posting from a

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fellow of who had originally been from

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Nova Scotia where my grandmother was

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from and he had put a posting on about

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this fellow in 2010 so here it is 2014

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and I'm finally answering and he was

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amazed to came back he turns out to be a

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relatively close cousin pardon the pun

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relatively close cousin of mine and he

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is the Registrar works in the

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registrar's office of the organization I

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had just sent my Dusen's in for in

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Ottawa right and what what is the chance

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of that having happened I'm you could

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you couldn't have planned that and so

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that they came down to one socket here

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on the way back from Nova Scotia he

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lives a mile from Nova Scotian we have a

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yes the lovely lovely visit wonderful

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people and we're great friends now and

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all because of that now one might say

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well the internet is simply an

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instrument that hadn't existed before

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and there's all sorts of information

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flow and people and things you would

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never have known about before are

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readily accessible so maybe that's an

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explanation but when it comes to these

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synchronicities and or coincidences Tim

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what do you think there really is some

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kind of as you say code behind this and

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what's behind that yeah well I you know

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when you say code see i'm not i'm not

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sure like you say what are they what are

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they trying to tell us maybe they can't

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maybe they can't tell us anything you

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know again we're waiting for that radio

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signal and it's almost it's almost like

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the electronic voice phenomena you get

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let's face it you get some messages but

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it's a lot of gibberish usually or

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sometimes right i mean it doesn't have

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anything really to do necessarily with

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the house that you're you're

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investigating if it's gotta go steady

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there it is just picks up random

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messages to tell you so it's like

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somebody saying hey I can't come down

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and shake your hand or I can't talk to

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you on the telephone but I can do

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something that will indicate that you

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know that this is that I'm real it were

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real or whether or whatever it is now a

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job seen Lily who wrote a play he

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claimed that he well he did he spoke

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with dolphins realer now probably

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communicate with them he said he had so

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many coincidences and is the life he

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said that he felt that there was some

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sort of coincidence review board I mean

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he seemed so there's an actual like some

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sort of interdimensional you know since

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the structure or

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our existence in some other you know

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realm I don't know I'm still searching

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and searching for the answers here now

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one of the things that happens all the

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time which really pushes the the

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envelope is these synchronicities where

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I run into people that I shouldn't run

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into thousands away thousands of miles

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away from home now in fact this is this

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case here the sensitive care that I'm

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going to relate was the first one the

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first synchronicity that I that I

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noticed because it blew my mind now I

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was speaking in the San Francisco where

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I had never been before this is many

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many years ago I was giving a lecture on

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the UFOs for the national UFO Congress

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of scientific ufology which was run by

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Jim Mosley who just passed away but the

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organizer that year was a young fella by

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the name of Dale Redick now we had all

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started out as the teenage ufologist and

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now we're a bunch of old men but anyway

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so i was in san francisco and the i gave

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this talk we had a nice attendance and

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people are up in the balcony and all of

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that and I I guess I gave a nice shell

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there and the next day it was you know

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time for me to go back to catch a plane

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to head back to Newark Airport but we

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have some time to kill before going to

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the airport so there were about I guess

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know maybe four or five of us the

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promoter and his wife and a few other

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people I guess who was kind of the inner

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circle of the group and we all decided

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to go out and have brunch with the

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sunday yeah you know round noon now I

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was not familiar with san francisco i

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had not been there before and the people

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i was with we picked the place of random

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it wasn't anywhere that they had been

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either so we're sitting down and having

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a bloody mary because what else do you

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having a sunday at brunch and i happen

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to do p which is chatting idle

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conversation and I i said to the

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promoter and the other people I said you

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know jeez it's a shame I know a few

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people here in San

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Francisco but I never thought to call

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them and I was coming into town in

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particular there was a fellow by the

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name of Allen born who had moved from

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New York to San Francisco to take a job

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as editor of a magazine called psychic

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that's when there were newsstands and

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publications and all those wonderful

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things that you could actually pick up a

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glossy publication and and he was a good

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friend of mine I had one of the first

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metaphysical centers in New York in the

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late 60s and early 70s and he had quite

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a reputation as big a very good psychic

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and had been written up in a quite a

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number of newspapers and things like

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that there were no ghost hunters really

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in those days except maybe household sir

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you know he was the only recognizable

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name and I suggest you know it's a shame

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that I didn't call Alan because in

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addition to him being a good friend he

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was very entertaining i mean i could see

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him where he was somebody you can like

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for just more than just being a parent

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normal researcher lo and behold five

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minutes later the front door to this

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restaurant or that we're in swings open

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and this gentleman comes in with a dog

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on a leash and I look at him and I said

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that can't possibly be Alan Vaughn

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because I'm 3,000 miles away from home

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and I have just been speaking about him

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uh he looks at me I look at him I

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emotion him over and I said aren't you

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Alan one and he says yes I am I said

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well what are you doing here I and I

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explained the circumstances that I would

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hear lecturing and I was just talking

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about it and he said you know I was just

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walking my dog and I'd never been in

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this place before and I felt like having

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a beer and Alan my kids Budweiser and so

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he he took down at the table and we had

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a good little laugh about this and I

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said by the way I what are you working

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on these days because like I mentioned

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he was the move to deference of skill to

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become editor this magazine video so

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wrote some paperback books and only said

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geez you know i'm working on a book on a

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coincidence and synchronicity and i

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guess this is going to be in it so if

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you can find that little paperback book

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Alan's born and this my copy here on the

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Shelf that I can't get there too because

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built them up bed around my bookcase is

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somewhere up there collecting a dust and

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turning very brittle those little

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paperback books you know but it reminded

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I think it's case number 17 in the book

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now this has happened to me repeatedly

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there was a fellow by the name of Harry

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levels him he was the UFO editor or

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space editor of omni magazine which is

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the amount of business for many many

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years there was a bob guccione the

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attempt to come out with a science

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fiction paranormal type of publication

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they didn't last very long because it

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wasn't very good to be honest to you but

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but harry wrote the UFO web column now

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Harry wanted to get out of the rat race

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so he moved from Manhattan to Miami

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South Beach harry didn't like telephones

537
00:23:49,390 --> 00:23:47,480
he never had one or at least after he

538
00:23:51,850 --> 00:23:49,400
moved out of the new york he never had

539
00:23:53,980 --> 00:23:51,860
one well whenever I went to South Beach

540
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:53,990
right on the ocean air because I love

541
00:23:59,590 --> 00:23:56,810
the water being a cancer every time I

542
00:24:01,090 --> 00:23:59,600
went to South Beach and Harry live

543
00:24:03,370 --> 00:24:01,100
within about maybe three or four blocks

544
00:24:05,350 --> 00:24:03,380
at the beach I would run into him I I

545
00:24:07,660 --> 00:24:05,360
mean I'm not just talking about once

546
00:24:10,330 --> 00:24:07,670
almost every time I was down there I

547
00:24:12,010 --> 00:24:10,340
would run into him he was just kind of

548
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:12,020
in the you know they're just roaming

549
00:24:16,540 --> 00:24:13,610
around I guess he went to the post

550
00:24:20,260 --> 00:24:16,550
office which is about maybe in the area

551
00:24:23,110 --> 00:24:20,270
where all the hotels were so never lost

552
00:24:26,410 --> 00:24:23,120
track of Harry until he until he passed

553
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:26,420
away and so that and this has happened I

554
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:28,730
don't know just just maybe five or six

555
00:24:33,850 --> 00:24:31,850
times of running into people that I

556
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:33,860
didn't know where they were and I'd find

557
00:24:39,310 --> 00:24:35,570
them on the street or find him in the

558
00:24:42,070 --> 00:24:39,320
train station one time Antonio who naess

559
00:24:46,530 --> 00:24:42,080
is a top-notch UFO researcher originally

560
00:24:49,060 --> 00:24:46,540
from Chile I see what's going to a

561
00:24:52,630 --> 00:24:49,070
conference so I forget and now maybe in

562
00:24:54,250 --> 00:24:52,640
Boston or Philadelphia and it would know

563
00:24:56,350 --> 00:24:54,260
we didn't have cell phones or anything

564
00:24:58,990 --> 00:24:56,360
like that see I said well you know i i'd

565
00:25:00,799 --> 00:24:59,000
be really anxious to know how how the

566
00:25:01,850 --> 00:25:00,809
conference turned out well you know

567
00:25:03,889 --> 00:25:01,860
where a lot of people there anything

568
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:03,899
like that he said well you know while I

569
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:05,850
pull you in a couple of days uh when i

570
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:09,330
get back from Philadelphia anyway I'm

571
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:12,090
about to get on a train at the penn

572
00:25:18,139 --> 00:25:15,330
station and here comes in Tony off the

573
00:25:19,430 --> 00:25:18,149
train as it was a show by the way you

574
00:25:21,350 --> 00:25:19,440
know so I didn't have to I didn't have

575
00:25:22,999 --> 00:25:21,360
to call him on the on the phone because

576
00:25:25,820 --> 00:25:23,009
I was leaving town but he was there any

577
00:25:28,669 --> 00:25:25,830
gave me the detail five or six times

578
00:25:31,129 --> 00:25:28,679
this just cannot be a coincidence you

579
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:31,139
just don't run into people 3,000 miles

580
00:25:35,529 --> 00:25:33,330
away from home or tell somebody you want

581
00:25:38,989 --> 00:25:35,539
some information and they appear

582
00:25:41,090 --> 00:25:38,999
majestically in front of you so true

583
00:25:42,379 --> 00:25:41,100
well that's perfect timing Tim because

584
00:25:44,539 --> 00:25:42,389
we're going to take our break at this

585
00:25:46,879 --> 00:25:44,549
point and you're listening to behind the

586
00:25:49,159 --> 00:25:46,889
paranormal with Paulin been in oh and wo

587
00:25:50,779 --> 00:25:49,169
n 12 40 in New England's beautiful

588
00:25:51,889 --> 00:25:50,789
Blackstone River Valley we'll be right

589
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:51,899
back with our good friend and

590
00:25:56,539 --> 00:25:53,850
fascinating guest Tim beckley stick with

591
00:25:58,310 --> 00:25:56,549
us ok and before we get back to our very

592
00:25:59,810 --> 00:25:58,320
interesting guests and conversation

593
00:26:01,519 --> 00:25:59,820
about synchronicities I wanted to remind

594
00:26:04,669 --> 00:26:01,529
you of several of the charities Ben and

595
00:26:07,460 --> 00:26:04,679
I have adopted there is USA cares the

596
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:07,470
USA cares org does terrific things for

597
00:26:11,239 --> 00:26:09,330
veterans and their families financially

598
00:26:13,180 --> 00:26:11,249
speaking at their short of money for a

599
00:26:15,830 --> 00:26:13,190
particular event or particularly

600
00:26:17,779 --> 00:26:15,840
mortgage things of that kind out goes to

601
00:26:19,549 --> 00:26:17,789
check for them and our friends to the

602
00:26:21,710 --> 00:26:19,559
North Canadian veterans advocacy as well

603
00:26:23,419 --> 00:26:21,720
Mike blaze and Ontario started this

604
00:26:25,759 --> 00:26:23,429
organization does great things in the

605
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:25,769
legislative point of view trying to help

606
00:26:29,210 --> 00:26:27,330
Canadian veterans as well who have been

607
00:26:31,730 --> 00:26:29,220
with us in Afghanistan since the

608
00:26:34,580 --> 00:26:31,740
beginning also youth mentoring

609
00:26:36,350 --> 00:26:34,590
connection in Los Angeles Tony lorae out

610
00:26:39,409 --> 00:26:36,360
there is done amazing things with young

611
00:26:41,779 --> 00:26:39,419
people by helping them with indigenous

612
00:26:43,460 --> 00:26:41,789
wisdom now this isn't crazy or a cult or

613
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:43,470
anything like that he just uses the good

614
00:26:46,639 --> 00:26:45,090
sense of some of the oldest peoples on

615
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:46,649
earth to help at-risk youth and he has

616
00:26:51,950 --> 00:26:48,090
had amazing result so check that out

617
00:26:54,259 --> 00:26:51,960
youth mentoring or so let's get back to

618
00:26:57,019 --> 00:26:54,269
our great guest Tim beckley paranormal

619
00:26:59,570 --> 00:26:57,029
legend now Tim we get a couple of things

620
00:27:02,749 --> 00:26:59,580
from listeners on a relatively

621
00:27:04,159 --> 00:27:02,759
consistent basis one is the feeling and

622
00:27:05,239 --> 00:27:04,169
they always you know as people usually

623
00:27:07,489 --> 00:27:05,249
do they always think they're a little

624
00:27:09,649 --> 00:27:07,499
bit nuts you know and because that's

625
00:27:12,169 --> 00:27:09,659
something people might feel when they

626
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:12,179
have strange experiences but one is that

627
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:14,730
they don't feel as though they real

628
00:27:20,890 --> 00:27:18,570
belong here sometimes they'll say they

629
00:27:23,630 --> 00:27:20,900
really don't feel as if they're actually

630
00:27:25,070 --> 00:27:23,640
belonging in the human species even

631
00:27:26,330 --> 00:27:25,080
though these are not nut balls I mean

632
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:26,340
that these are these are ordinary people

633
00:27:32,210 --> 00:27:28,770
and they that sort of thing and the

634
00:27:33,740 --> 00:27:32,220
second thing is that they feel as we've

635
00:27:37,580 --> 00:27:33,750
already touched on that something is

636
00:27:39,500 --> 00:27:37,590
sort of pulling strings or guiding them

637
00:27:41,870 --> 00:27:39,510
as you sort of mentioned yes and

638
00:27:44,150 --> 00:27:41,880
sometimes they'll attributed to angels

639
00:27:46,549 --> 00:27:44,160
or whatever things and folklore might

640
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:46,559
might come through to explain that so

641
00:27:51,169 --> 00:27:48,330
those those two things seem to be themes

642
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:51,179
yet it from our point of view and I'd

643
00:27:55,130 --> 00:27:53,610
like your comment on this yeah I think

644
00:27:56,390 --> 00:27:55,140
we often don't feel that we belong here

645
00:27:58,430 --> 00:27:56,400
because you know our point of view we

646
00:27:59,780 --> 00:27:58,440
tend to stick with this multiverse idea

647
00:28:01,850 --> 00:27:59,790
and you're living in many different

648
00:28:04,039 --> 00:28:01,860
places is all kind of one big you and

649
00:28:05,659 --> 00:28:04,049
sometimes it's not entirely balanced as

650
00:28:07,340 --> 00:28:05,669
far as your perception and consciousness

651
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:07,350
is concerned so maybe you feel you look

652
00:28:10,430 --> 00:28:08,490
like you belong somewhere else because

653
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:10,440
that's what you really are and that's

654
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:13,770
home in other cases the the whole the

655
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:16,650
whole idea of feeling control beyond

656
00:28:23,060 --> 00:28:19,650
yourself I think one possibility might

657
00:28:24,530 --> 00:28:23,070
be that your other other aspects of

658
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:24,540
yourself that are coming through your

659
00:28:30,260 --> 00:28:26,730
subconscious from parallel existences

660
00:28:31,850 --> 00:28:30,270
might be in a position to help you or to

661
00:28:34,159 --> 00:28:31,860
pull some strings or whatever you want

662
00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:34,169
to call it and that might be a factor in

663
00:28:38,299 --> 00:28:35,370
there may what say you about what's

664
00:28:41,419 --> 00:28:38,309
behind that sort of feeling or

665
00:28:43,970 --> 00:28:41,429
experience well now you know a lot of

666
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:43,980
people do ask me they say well did you

667
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:46,410
ever have you know you must have had an

668
00:28:51,500 --> 00:28:49,770
abduction experience or you must be a

669
00:28:52,940 --> 00:28:51,510
star child or something like that you

670
00:28:56,870 --> 00:28:52,950
always say well you know you haven't got

671
00:29:00,010 --> 00:28:56,880
one of those heads do well perhaps

672
00:29:03,260 --> 00:29:00,020
subtypes it too big for my own do this

673
00:29:05,330 --> 00:29:03,270
but not that smell that noticeable a

674
00:29:07,159 --> 00:29:05,340
part of it is in another dimension i

675
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:07,169
guess but i always tell those people

676
00:29:12,230 --> 00:29:09,450
well maybe pick up a book by brad

677
00:29:13,850 --> 00:29:12,240
steiger because the star children of

678
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:13,860
course that was his concept that's more

679
00:29:19,820 --> 00:29:16,770
up his alley in fact do I feel that I

680
00:29:22,130 --> 00:29:19,830
belong yeah I kind of you know and we

681
00:29:25,370 --> 00:29:22,140
all have our good and bad days but I've

682
00:29:28,010 --> 00:29:25,380
always kind of liked it around here I

683
00:29:30,830 --> 00:29:28,020
mean you know it surely you

684
00:29:34,220 --> 00:29:30,840
to levitate like I can't levitate like

685
00:29:37,030 --> 00:29:34,230
Ben Ken or read minds like you Paul but

686
00:29:41,300 --> 00:29:37,040
I do have my you know I do have my

687
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:41,310
pluses here and I I think that I you

688
00:29:45,950 --> 00:29:43,050
know I and I just say this I have no

689
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:45,960
proof but yes I i think that i am here

690
00:29:55,010 --> 00:29:49,770
to I wouldn't say teach others because I

691
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:55,020
know I'm no Messire or even a grue but I

692
00:30:00,560 --> 00:29:57,330
think I'm here to exchange information

693
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:00,570
and just like UFOs to make people think

694
00:30:08,330 --> 00:30:04,170
I would hope that I could you know touch

695
00:30:09,890 --> 00:30:08,340
people in a way where maybe they'll pick

696
00:30:11,420 --> 00:30:09,900
up a book because how many other people

697
00:30:14,060 --> 00:30:11,430
are publishing these days I mean

698
00:30:17,540 --> 00:30:14,070
especially in this field it's kind of a

699
00:30:19,430 --> 00:30:17,550
bygone the you know the thing to publish

700
00:30:22,220 --> 00:30:19,440
it's all on the Internet not that we're

701
00:30:23,870 --> 00:30:22,230
not on the internet I have my own TV

702
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:23,880
channel I guess you'd call it that on

703
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:26,250
youtube its mr. UFO secret files I

704
00:30:30,110 --> 00:30:28,050
travel around the country and I take my

705
00:30:32,300 --> 00:30:30,120
camera with me and I've been giving out

706
00:30:34,070 --> 00:30:32,310
free DVDs with my books but I decided

707
00:30:36,710 --> 00:30:34,080
well heck let's put them all in one spot

708
00:30:38,390 --> 00:30:36,720
so I've done that but the you know the

709
00:30:40,850 --> 00:30:38,400
paranormal since I was a kid and you

710
00:30:43,670 --> 00:30:40,860
mentioned the angels I had an experience

711
00:30:45,470 --> 00:30:43,680
that I guess something saved my life no

712
00:30:49,070 --> 00:30:45,480
I can't prove as a guardian angel I'm

713
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:49,080
not a very religious person so spirits

714
00:30:57,740 --> 00:30:53,970
yes angels yeah you know I was with my

715
00:31:00,110 --> 00:30:57,750
parents and we were in a car my mother

716
00:31:02,270 --> 00:31:00,120
would would go is she had a breathing

717
00:31:06,310 --> 00:31:02,280
problem she had asthma and all very bad

718
00:31:09,110 --> 00:31:06,320
in those days you went to places where

719
00:31:11,420 --> 00:31:09,120
there were no allergies or whatever

720
00:31:13,910 --> 00:31:11,430
right so one of the places was Kentucky

721
00:31:15,740 --> 00:31:13,920
don't work anymore but we get into our

722
00:31:19,070 --> 00:31:15,750
car and we would drive for maybe two and

723
00:31:21,890 --> 00:31:19,080
a half three days down to the near

724
00:31:23,900 --> 00:31:21,900
Louisville my my father was there my

725
00:31:26,270 --> 00:31:23,910
mother was born in the East Coast here

726
00:31:30,260 --> 00:31:26,280
but she liked to travel and we had the

727
00:31:35,140 --> 00:31:30,270
family there and so we take the the

728
00:31:37,550 --> 00:31:35,150
Oldsmobile and 1949 Oldsmobile and they

729
00:31:39,549 --> 00:31:37,560
would they would sit me up in the bats

730
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:39,559
at me up in the back of the car I had

731
00:31:43,090 --> 00:31:41,330
little toy I was about three years old

732
00:31:45,249 --> 00:31:43,100
you know set me up at the back of the

733
00:31:47,739 --> 00:31:45,259
car and had some blankets and toys and

734
00:31:50,169 --> 00:31:47,749
stuff back there and to whittle away the

735
00:31:52,629 --> 00:31:50,179
the time and I always like to travel I

736
00:31:54,279 --> 00:31:52,639
mean to this day I don't mind getting on

737
00:31:56,049 --> 00:31:54,289
a bus people say oh you can't afford to

738
00:31:59,409 --> 00:31:56,059
go on an airplane ah man I like to see

739
00:32:01,930 --> 00:31:59,419
the scenery you know no III get the car

740
00:32:04,119 --> 00:32:01,940
and we travel down there my my father

741
00:32:06,730 --> 00:32:04,129
did most of the driving and my mother

742
00:32:10,210 --> 00:32:06,740
probably bickered with him most of the

743
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:10,220
way down there kiddo cause I guess she

744
00:32:12,909 --> 00:32:11,450
didn't like his driving or thought he

745
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:12,919
was a good driver or something like that

746
00:32:16,330 --> 00:32:14,450
but what you get out of the area

747
00:32:20,139 --> 00:32:16,340
especially in those days I mean traffic

748
00:32:23,230 --> 00:32:20,149
wasn't like it is today so I guess on

749
00:32:26,529 --> 00:32:23,240
the the third night we would have been

750
00:32:28,659 --> 00:32:26,539
getting pretty close you know to to

751
00:32:30,909 --> 00:32:28,669
Kentucky or our destination and as I

752
00:32:32,289 --> 00:32:30,919
understand it we were up in the kind of

753
00:32:35,310 --> 00:32:32,299
in the mountains are up in the winding

754
00:32:40,359 --> 00:32:35,320
roads and it was getting a little bit

755
00:32:42,730 --> 00:32:40,369
foggy out and my father wanted to

756
00:32:45,489 --> 00:32:42,740
continue driving and get the heck out of

757
00:32:47,230 --> 00:32:45,499
the car I guess and it just call it

758
00:32:49,119 --> 00:32:47,240
quits you know and maybe there was only

759
00:32:51,759 --> 00:32:49,129
another hour and a half or two hours ago

760
00:32:54,639 --> 00:32:51,769
but the fog is moving in and the Sun was

761
00:32:57,220 --> 00:32:54,649
down and my mother insists insisted that

762
00:33:00,100 --> 00:32:57,230
he stopped on the spot and if my mother

763
00:33:04,090 --> 00:33:00,110
said something he did it and and so he

764
00:33:05,980 --> 00:33:04,100
stopped the car and I guess they are

765
00:33:08,919 --> 00:33:05,990
sleeping in the back and they were in

766
00:33:11,710 --> 00:33:08,929
the front and when the Sun rose and the

767
00:33:14,519 --> 00:33:11,720
fog cut through the Sun cut through the

768
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:14,529
fog we were on the edge of a cliff and

769
00:33:20,379 --> 00:33:17,690
as I understand it if we had moved

770
00:33:25,210 --> 00:33:20,389
another foot or two I would not be here

771
00:33:26,980 --> 00:33:25,220
today speaking with Paul in bed I would

772
00:33:29,350 --> 00:33:26,990
be levitating and with wings or

773
00:33:30,879 --> 00:33:29,360
something like that so there's there's

774
00:33:34,119 --> 00:33:30,889
an incident I mean you know the very

775
00:33:36,940 --> 00:33:34,129
tender age of three wear something did

776
00:33:38,980 --> 00:33:36,950
seem to have some impact maybe I did

777
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:38,990
come from somewhere else and I wandered

778
00:33:43,779 --> 00:33:41,330
and I have no recollection of that and

779
00:33:46,119 --> 00:33:43,789
it doesn't particularly interest me at

780
00:33:48,759 --> 00:33:46,129
all but I I do think we do have some

781
00:33:51,220 --> 00:33:48,769
sort of guidance of you know on and off

782
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:51,230
throughout our lives and that we will

783
00:33:56,460 --> 00:33:53,410
have a direction just like you fellows

784
00:33:58,590 --> 00:33:56,470
bianna psychic thing in and being on the

785
00:34:01,140 --> 00:33:58,600
radio you've done how many shows that

786
00:34:05,490 --> 00:34:01,150
did I hear you say this is I believe the

787
00:34:07,350 --> 00:34:05,500
548 not counting special shows thou my

788
00:34:10,290 --> 00:34:07,360
goodness that that doesn't include all

789
00:34:12,330 --> 00:34:10,300
the good programs on Bentwaters I know

790
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:12,340
that was 16 hours separately so if

791
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:14,410
anybody has a time yeah yeah I've

792
00:34:19,230 --> 00:34:16,090
listened to those shows of the numerous

793
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:19,240
of times i'ma say but uh yeah there's

794
00:34:22,620 --> 00:34:20,410
this um you know there's something

795
00:34:24,470 --> 00:34:22,630
there's a guiding hand and just like it

796
00:34:26,940 --> 00:34:24,480
Charles for said that you know where but

797
00:34:29,730 --> 00:34:26,950
you know puppets on a string and there's

798
00:34:32,790 --> 00:34:29,740
some marionette up there may be dancing

799
00:34:35,580 --> 00:34:32,800
us around from again over time to time

800
00:34:37,710 --> 00:34:35,590
well hello also my grandfather on my

801
00:34:40,380 --> 00:34:37,720
father's side of the family so a

802
00:34:42,710 --> 00:34:40,390
headless horseman really yeah well I

803
00:34:44,820 --> 00:34:42,720
must say I'm missing one of those then I

804
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:44,830
don't have I don't have any great

805
00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:48,490
details about it but uh my father came

806
00:34:55,890 --> 00:34:53,169
from a rural area and his daddy the way

807
00:34:57,720 --> 00:34:55,900
they were born in raised and lived all

808
00:35:00,210 --> 00:34:57,730
their lives and shelbyville Kentucky

809
00:35:01,890 --> 00:35:00,220
which is the home of Colonel or was the

810
00:35:04,500 --> 00:35:01,900
home of Colonel Sanders yeah we have a

811
00:35:07,710 --> 00:35:04,510
relative new there yeah I chicken the

812
00:35:10,890 --> 00:35:07,720
chicken magnate yes I don't know if a

813
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:10,900
chicken is a Baghdad but happens on my

814
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:13,330
arm ingested me yeah and anyway as I

815
00:35:18,990 --> 00:35:16,210
understand it grandpappy was out doing

816
00:35:23,690 --> 00:35:19,000
some late evening at yours and he was

817
00:35:26,490 --> 00:35:23,700
behind the barn and here comes a of a

818
00:35:28,140 --> 00:35:26,500
headless horseman I mean what else can

819
00:35:31,260 --> 00:35:28,150
you say you know she's okay well lets

820
00:35:32,730 --> 00:35:31,270
you know there are looked it up and I'm

821
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:32,740
no authority on it but there seems to be

822
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:34,330
a lot of cases of headless Horseman's

823
00:35:40,380 --> 00:35:37,090
now there were it was a I believe

824
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:40,390
Kentucky was a neutral state during the

825
00:35:44,220 --> 00:35:42,370
Civil War but there were some skirmishes

826
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:44,230
around there so we're doing that the

827
00:35:50,100 --> 00:35:48,130
other union or Confederate the soldier

828
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:50,110
unfortunately was in the wrong place the

829
00:35:57,810 --> 00:35:52,930
wrong a time as a cannibal caught him in

830
00:35:59,460 --> 00:35:57,820
a very bad this spot and that's what it

831
00:36:01,580 --> 00:35:59,470
was that'll do I don't know i mean

832
00:36:03,570 --> 00:36:01,590
that's that's the story and my

833
00:36:06,210 --> 00:36:03,580
grandfather and father were very

834
00:36:07,259 --> 00:36:06,220
religious they were Baptist and they

835
00:36:09,569 --> 00:36:07,269
didn't like to talk about

836
00:36:12,109 --> 00:36:09,579
because they thought a lot of this was

837
00:36:14,969 --> 00:36:12,119
the work of the devil exactly yeah and

838
00:36:17,339 --> 00:36:14,979
which brings us up to UFOs wicked this

839
00:36:18,989 --> 00:36:17,349
way come now that's the book that I'm

840
00:36:24,529 --> 00:36:18,999
giving away or at least the kindle

841
00:36:27,959 --> 00:36:24,539
edition it it's a an essay a dossier a

842
00:36:29,579 --> 00:36:27,969
book it's like 300 pages I'm sort of the

843
00:36:32,689 --> 00:36:29,589
dark side of things that go on in

844
00:36:36,059 --> 00:36:32,699
ufology you know you hear about the

845
00:36:39,979 --> 00:36:36,069
cases of people having a friendly

846
00:36:43,109 --> 00:36:39,989
contact with the the space brothers and

847
00:36:45,779 --> 00:36:43,119
being a healed onboard UFOs and some of

848
00:36:49,649 --> 00:36:45,789
these very nice fuzzy cozy a thing but

849
00:36:52,579 --> 00:36:49,659
not all you know UFO beings or pilots or

850
00:36:56,969 --> 00:36:52,589
crew members or interdimensional

851
00:36:59,969 --> 00:36:56,979
swordsman are necessarily ETS in fact

852
00:37:01,919 --> 00:36:59,979
some of them are tricksters and maniacal

853
00:37:04,469 --> 00:37:01,929
and tell you things that aren't

854
00:37:06,389 --> 00:37:04,479
necessarily it true so I put that down

855
00:37:10,169 --> 00:37:06,399
in a book I have a whole series that's

856
00:37:12,149 --> 00:37:10,179
the UFO fear factor not that I'm opposed

857
00:37:13,919 --> 00:37:12,159
to do friendly you know guys from outer

858
00:37:15,839 --> 00:37:13,929
space don't get me wrong I I know

859
00:37:18,509 --> 00:37:15,849
friends of mine channel ashtar in the

860
00:37:22,109 --> 00:37:18,519
UFO command and we have book event as

861
00:37:26,039 --> 00:37:22,119
well but in order to promote a book

862
00:37:28,109 --> 00:37:26,049
every month or so we offer a kindle

863
00:37:31,439 --> 00:37:28,119
edition of one of our up-and-coming

864
00:37:36,959 --> 00:37:31,449
titles so today until friday if you go

865
00:37:39,689 --> 00:37:36,969
to amazon and you go type in UFOs dash

866
00:37:40,769 --> 00:37:39,699
wicked this way come and just put Tim

867
00:37:43,229 --> 00:37:40,779
beckley after it because then you'll

868
00:37:45,029 --> 00:37:43,239
find it real quick and you get the

869
00:37:48,449 --> 00:37:45,039
kindle edition you can click on it for

870
00:37:52,229 --> 00:37:48,459
free and so far before i came on the air

871
00:37:56,489 --> 00:37:52,239
I checked we had already given away 225

872
00:37:58,589 --> 00:37:56,499
books today I guess it started like it

873
00:38:01,049 --> 00:37:58,599
you know 8am this morning and I'm hoping

874
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:01,059
that we can give away a thousand books

875
00:38:06,749 --> 00:38:03,130
kindle editions of the book and kindle

876
00:38:08,669 --> 00:38:06,759
books can be read on any computer i

877
00:38:11,089 --> 00:38:08,679
understand it so there you go and it's a

878
00:38:14,219 --> 00:38:11,099
it's a very interesting and entertaining

879
00:38:16,499 --> 00:38:14,229
book we pull no punches and there are

880
00:38:19,259 --> 00:38:16,509
other researchers besides me in there

881
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:19,269
this Ron Castille and Peter Robbins who

882
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:20,610
talks about some of the

883
00:38:25,940 --> 00:38:23,490
premature deaths of UFO researchers and

884
00:38:27,770 --> 00:38:25,950
seems to have come under the spell of

885
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:27,780
maybe the men in black that I've written

886
00:38:32,390 --> 00:38:30,570
about so it knits there just type it in

887
00:38:34,790 --> 00:38:32,400
get your kindle edition or pay for the

888
00:38:36,530 --> 00:38:34,800
british version if you'd like and and

889
00:38:38,330 --> 00:38:36,540
there you go well you know i know what

890
00:38:39,980 --> 00:38:38,340
i'll be doing after the show well

891
00:38:41,810 --> 00:38:39,990
reading that's good that's good oh

892
00:38:43,820 --> 00:38:41,820
absolutely wow that's it you know as one

893
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:43,830
as a writer one has to read and you'd be

894
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:44,970
amazed the writers they don't seem to

895
00:38:49,340 --> 00:38:46,890
know that but in any case you know I'm

896
00:38:51,890 --> 00:38:49,350
kind of with you Tim on the sort of not

897
00:38:53,210 --> 00:38:51,900
trusting these little gray guys you know

898
00:38:54,770 --> 00:38:53,220
so to speak if that's what need what

899
00:38:57,170 --> 00:38:54,780
they are things are never what they

900
00:38:58,790 --> 00:38:57,180
appear to be in the paranormal now

901
00:39:00,500 --> 00:38:58,800
you've touched on the necklace you're

902
00:39:03,110 --> 00:39:00,510
one of the few years of one of the shoes

903
00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:03,120
that realize that now you know I say

904
00:39:11,180 --> 00:39:07,730
what goes on inside a haunted house and

905
00:39:14,750 --> 00:39:11,190
an inside the seance room is very

906
00:39:17,660 --> 00:39:14,760
similar to what goes on at a UFO landing

907
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:17,670
sighs well well you have the levitation

908
00:39:24,650 --> 00:39:21,810
sorry Ben yes absolute you have the

909
00:39:27,860 --> 00:39:24,660
levitation people are levitated into

910
00:39:30,620 --> 00:39:27,870
UFOs the all the time and then thrown

911
00:39:33,830 --> 00:39:30,630
back on the ground you've got the cases

912
00:39:36,350 --> 00:39:33,840
of people going through walls you know

913
00:39:37,580 --> 00:39:36,360
the woman's down here in lower Manhattan

914
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:37,590
to went through her wool and burn

915
00:39:42,970 --> 00:39:39,090
haunted them inside of it yeah yeah

916
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:42,980
inside the the spaceship well how about

917
00:39:49,310 --> 00:39:46,890
the human Douglas Hume floated outside

918
00:39:53,420 --> 00:39:49,320
the window and came in the other window

919
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:53,430
you've got all kinds of apparitions in a

920
00:39:58,700 --> 00:39:55,650
seance room and in the haunted house if

921
00:40:01,610 --> 00:39:58,710
that's the same thing in a UFO it if

922
00:40:04,250 --> 00:40:01,620
it's all pretty much the same ball of

923
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:04,260
wax now I know Danton Friedman and these

924
00:40:10,580 --> 00:40:06,690
other guys that the you know believe

925
00:40:12,140 --> 00:40:10,590
that this is all every terrestrial say

926
00:40:15,260 --> 00:40:12,150
that I don't know what I'm talking about

927
00:40:18,140 --> 00:40:15,270
but I do because I see the subject from

928
00:40:20,720 --> 00:40:18,150
it's a complete point of view you know I

929
00:40:22,010 --> 00:40:20,730
mean being interested in and in fact you

930
00:40:24,710 --> 00:40:22,020
know I noticed last night I was

931
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:24,720
listening to a podcast with the Cameron

932
00:40:29,390 --> 00:40:27,810
grant he's the Canadian risen about all

933
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:29,400
the president I don't know if he's been

934
00:40:33,020 --> 00:40:31,050
on the show but now we don't know him

935
00:40:33,819 --> 00:40:33,030
unfortunately well you got to get him on

936
00:40:36,009 --> 00:40:33,829
the show down

937
00:40:38,049 --> 00:40:36,019
he started on last night and I always

938
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:38,059
thought of him as that's a bold type of

939
00:40:42,459 --> 00:40:40,249
guy well he went on and said that how he

940
00:40:44,170 --> 00:40:42,469
had seen in in government documents

941
00:40:46,690 --> 00:40:44,180
because he goes to all the presidential

942
00:40:49,870 --> 00:40:46,700
libraries and studies all the stuff he

943
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:49,880
saw and a lot of the earlier classified

944
00:40:53,289 --> 00:40:51,650
reports that are now released where the

945
00:40:56,949 --> 00:40:53,299
government was talking about it's all

946
00:40:58,539 --> 00:40:56,959
ESP it's all mental telepathy and that's

947
00:41:00,039 --> 00:40:58,549
why they can't explain this to the

948
00:41:02,859 --> 00:41:00,049
public because the public doesn't

949
00:41:05,469 --> 00:41:02,869
understand a mind to mind the

950
00:41:07,150 --> 00:41:05,479
communication and it just they would

951
00:41:09,069 --> 00:41:07,160
think that they were demons I guess a

952
00:41:10,809 --> 00:41:09,079
lot of people would say that well to me

953
00:41:13,420 --> 00:41:10,819
I don't take a demon's in the sense of

954
00:41:17,620 --> 00:41:13,430
you know Satan sitting on a throne in

955
00:41:19,930 --> 00:41:17,630
the you know her like a pitchfork at you

956
00:41:21,940 --> 00:41:19,940
or something I think it demons the war

957
00:41:25,359 --> 00:41:21,950
in a sense of you know Aleister

958
00:41:27,459 --> 00:41:25,369
Crowley's spirit of the spirits of

959
00:41:30,339 --> 00:41:27,469
falling angels and things before fallen

960
00:41:32,259 --> 00:41:30,349
angels were just interdimensional beings

961
00:41:34,749 --> 00:41:32,269
of some sort you know I don't know hmm

962
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:34,759
yeah well I think certainly and not now

963
00:41:39,130 --> 00:41:36,410
it's funny you mentioned what you

964
00:41:41,529 --> 00:41:39,140
mentioned Risa 5-10 minutes because

965
00:41:43,209 --> 00:41:41,539
we're speaking at to UFO conferences and

966
00:41:44,829 --> 00:41:43,219
we're going to talk about precisely that

967
00:41:46,390 --> 00:41:44,839
and I don't know if a lot of these

968
00:41:48,339 --> 00:41:46,400
people will have heard that before and

969
00:41:49,890 --> 00:41:48,349
we have the greatest respect for Stan

970
00:41:53,709 --> 00:41:49,900
freed me as a dear friend and I fellow

971
00:41:55,180 --> 00:41:53,719
when a preface for our next book but but

972
00:41:56,799 --> 00:41:55,190
he said you know he is pretty much a

973
00:41:58,660 --> 00:41:56,809
nuts-and-bolts guy when we respect that

974
00:42:01,120 --> 00:41:58,670
maybe he's right but I think other

975
00:42:02,759 --> 00:42:01,130
points of view can be introduced and

976
00:42:04,989 --> 00:42:02,769
we're get kind of planning whatever

977
00:42:08,650 --> 00:42:04,999
here's a story I heard the other night

978
00:42:15,039 --> 00:42:08,660
for the first time I have a podcast that

979
00:42:19,089 --> 00:42:15,049
I do I'm a co-host every once about

980
00:42:21,430 --> 00:42:19,099
second sunday of uh once a month and I

981
00:42:25,359 --> 00:42:21,440
picked I picked the gas so i picked this

982
00:42:28,329 --> 00:42:25,369
fellow his name is the harry drew and

983
00:42:32,229 --> 00:42:28,339
he's lives in the town of kingman

984
00:42:37,630 --> 00:42:32,239
arizona now back in 1953 there were a

985
00:42:39,430 --> 00:42:37,640
series of UFO crash landings unlike

986
00:42:40,930 --> 00:42:39,440
roswell he said it didn't dig itself in

987
00:42:45,009 --> 00:42:40,940
the ground it did for but it landed

988
00:42:46,989 --> 00:42:45,019
there and now the incident the incident

989
00:42:47,740 --> 00:42:46,999
or incident is known about its been

990
00:42:52,390 --> 00:42:47,750
written but it's

991
00:42:56,580 --> 00:42:52,400
to food and people fake in general that

992
00:43:04,810 --> 00:43:00,670
he's not a ufologist he's actually a

993
00:43:07,510 --> 00:43:04,820
local historian so he found at least 15

994
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:07,520
people in town of Kingman who witnessed

995
00:43:12,010 --> 00:43:10,010
this landed at craft the military

996
00:43:14,350 --> 00:43:12,020
apparently came in and to put it on a

997
00:43:17,140 --> 00:43:14,360
flatbed truck that floated it across the

998
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:17,150
river in Colorado and eventually it

999
00:43:24,820 --> 00:43:21,650
ended up in area 51 okay so there you

1000
00:43:28,540 --> 00:43:24,830
figure there's a physical craft nuts and

1001
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:28,550
bolts must come from Saturn or you know

1002
00:43:35,230 --> 00:43:31,850
across the universe or something but no

1003
00:43:36,820 --> 00:43:35,240
then he then here he goes a step further

1004
00:43:39,580 --> 00:43:36,830
by the way the show was called the outer

1005
00:43:43,630 --> 00:43:39,590
edge it's not archived yet but it's good

1006
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:43,640
going ham on but anyway he tells his

1007
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:46,370
story about not only the crashed or

1008
00:43:53,050 --> 00:43:48,970
landed UFO but there were aliens

1009
00:43:55,240 --> 00:43:53,060
survivors ok so the sheriff took to the

1010
00:43:56,500 --> 00:43:55,250
two of the aliens disappeared right now

1011
00:43:58,630 --> 00:43:56,510
I don't know argued they vanished I

1012
00:43:59,920 --> 00:43:58,640
guess no in fact they got into something

1013
00:44:01,210 --> 00:43:59,930
that looked like an ambulance but it

1014
00:44:04,450 --> 00:44:01,220
wasn't an ambulance and they took off

1015
00:44:06,250 --> 00:44:04,460
they never saw them again anyway the

1016
00:44:08,140 --> 00:44:06,260
sheriff got ahold of two of them and I

1017
00:44:10,180 --> 00:44:08,150
guess he was keeping them and let's

1018
00:44:13,060 --> 00:44:10,190
laugh at this protective custody right

1019
00:44:16,300 --> 00:44:13,070
so he he takes them and he's got an

1020
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:16,310
office underground yeah you know a cell

1021
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:19,010
I know where you know the lock-up on the

1022
00:44:22,570 --> 00:44:20,450
ground so he takes the aliens in

1023
00:44:24,700 --> 00:44:22,580
protective custody and he puts them in

1024
00:44:30,190 --> 00:44:24,710
this little room blocks the door

1025
00:44:31,780 --> 00:44:30,200
carefully very tightly and comes back a

1026
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:31,790
little while later I don't guess they

1027
00:44:36,310 --> 00:44:34,490
wait for the cup of coffee and if they

1028
00:44:37,780 --> 00:44:36,320
were waiting to make a phone call I

1029
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:37,790
don't know how much long distance a

1030
00:44:41,740 --> 00:44:39,170
little bit in those days where they came

1031
00:44:44,700 --> 00:44:41,750
from but that's so anyway he comes back

1032
00:44:46,990 --> 00:44:44,710
he opened he opens the door they're gone

1033
00:44:49,990 --> 00:44:47,000
they must have walked through that wall

1034
00:44:51,850 --> 00:44:50,000
either that or they were made him think

1035
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:51,860
that they were locked in that room and

1036
00:44:56,020 --> 00:44:54,290
they really weren't well that sheriff

1037
00:44:57,670 --> 00:44:56,030
and his deputy looked all over the place

1038
00:45:00,430 --> 00:44:57,680
that it was a small room there was only

1039
00:45:01,490 --> 00:45:00,440
a couple of chairs and a table and they

1040
00:45:03,890 --> 00:45:01,500
looked under the table they

1041
00:45:05,570 --> 00:45:03,900
aliens went there and they either club

1042
00:45:08,330 --> 00:45:05,580
themselves and made themselves invisible

1043
00:45:09,830 --> 00:45:08,340
and walked out around him or they were

1044
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:09,840
never there to begin with doesn't mean

1045
00:45:15,500 --> 00:45:12,210
the guy was lying they had to put the

1046
00:45:17,240 --> 00:45:15,510
the alien ion and not the evil eye but

1047
00:45:18,950 --> 00:45:17,250
the LA and I on I'm a guess and made him

1048
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:18,960
believe that they were in that room and

1049
00:45:23,510 --> 00:45:21,450
they weren't so they disappeared and

1050
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:23,520
whatever seen again well there you go

1051
00:45:28,220 --> 00:45:25,410
yeah I'm thinking also of Nigel Carter

1052
00:45:30,500 --> 00:45:28,230
from the UK who was a UFO researcher and

1053
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:30,510
leaves a more or less along the same

1054
00:45:36,470 --> 00:45:34,290
lines that degrades particularly are

1055
00:45:39,020 --> 00:45:36,480
perhaps biomechanical and not

1056
00:45:41,930 --> 00:45:39,030
necessarily entirely biological units

1057
00:45:43,970 --> 00:45:41,940
and that they are up to no good the

1058
00:45:47,090 --> 00:45:43,980
thing is I always find it weird that

1059
00:45:49,370 --> 00:45:47,100
when people are talking about their

1060
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:49,380
experiences like being abducted and they

1061
00:45:51,980 --> 00:45:50,610
started like saying oh well they're here

1062
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:51,990
to help us and stuff and they're just

1063
00:45:56,180 --> 00:45:54,090
nice and they just want to get us up to

1064
00:46:00,070 --> 00:45:56,190
our higher selves or whatever it's like

1065
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:00,080
why I don't understand how we can derive

1066
00:46:07,370 --> 00:46:04,410
human morals more social mores and like

1067
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:07,380
a human traits of just being nice to

1068
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:09,330
completely alien creatures that's just

1069
00:46:14,090 --> 00:46:10,890
one thing that just boggles my mind I

1070
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:14,100
was me to say I don't know your ear

1071
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:17,130
right why would anybody else's behavior

1072
00:46:23,870 --> 00:46:20,970
being necessarily the same behavior that

1073
00:46:25,550 --> 00:46:23,880
we would have I yeah that it just says

1074
00:46:29,890 --> 00:46:25,560
that doesn't make too much sense that

1075
00:46:34,310 --> 00:46:29,900
domain and so you know a lot of our

1076
00:46:37,490 --> 00:46:34,320
fellow ufologist are waiting for a

1077
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:37,500
disclosure well what is the government

1078
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:41,010
going to disclose after our alien bodies

1079
00:46:45,110 --> 00:46:42,930
one not sure the jury alien bodies that

1080
00:46:48,140 --> 00:46:45,120
even if there is there may be three or

1081
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:48,150
four people in the entire military that

1082
00:46:55,630 --> 00:46:50,970
even know about this because lo and

1083
00:46:58,760 --> 00:46:55,640
behold even Clinton who actually was a

1084
00:47:02,660 --> 00:46:58,770
fairly strong believer in the UFOs are

1085
00:47:04,420 --> 00:47:02,670
interested even the he sent one of his

1086
00:47:07,970 --> 00:47:04,430
representatives to find out two things

1087
00:47:10,910 --> 00:47:07,980
the UFO crash in Roswell and who was

1088
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:10,920
behind the JFK assassination and he

1089
00:47:15,380 --> 00:47:13,650
found out nothing the president is not

1090
00:47:17,329 --> 00:47:15,390
is not void he

1091
00:47:19,789 --> 00:47:17,339
bought into the briefing room and he's

1092
00:47:22,069 --> 00:47:19,799
told whatever he should be told that's

1093
00:47:24,220 --> 00:47:22,079
right he does he doesn't have any now

1094
00:47:26,690 --> 00:47:24,230
Ronald Reagan might have been the sex

1095
00:47:28,730 --> 00:47:26,700
exception he seemed to have had a an

1096
00:47:31,460 --> 00:47:28,740
interest in the subject his wife was

1097
00:47:35,299 --> 00:47:31,470
into astrology and he had had a couple

1098
00:47:37,730 --> 00:47:35,309
of UFO sighting so maybe he knew a

1099
00:47:39,799 --> 00:47:37,740
little bit about it but we assume that

1100
00:47:42,650 --> 00:47:39,809
nobody really has a very few people have

1101
00:47:45,890 --> 00:47:42,660
the answer and the answer is so

1102
00:47:50,150 --> 00:47:45,900
unorthodox that how does Obama or

1103
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:50,160
anybody go on TV at six o'clock and say

1104
00:47:55,609 --> 00:47:53,490
fellas this is the way it gives because

1105
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:55,619
people are not going to stand for that

1106
00:48:01,220 --> 00:47:57,930
and they're not going to understand it a

1107
00:48:04,190 --> 00:48:01,230
hedge fund manager is not going to know

1108
00:48:06,829 --> 00:48:04,200
about walking through a wall it just

1109
00:48:09,109 --> 00:48:06,839
isn't part of their their concept and

1110
00:48:12,890 --> 00:48:09,119
people are taught a course in the

1111
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:12,900
university's far and wide that things

1112
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:15,690
like walking through walls and beds

1113
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:19,650
levitation just does not happen well it

1114
00:48:26,870 --> 00:48:23,490
is also and so nobody is going to go on

1115
00:48:30,259 --> 00:48:26,880
TV and announce this to the world the

1116
00:48:34,609 --> 00:48:30,269
only time that this will happen is when

1117
00:48:36,589 --> 00:48:34,619
they whoever they are decide it's time

1118
00:48:40,309 --> 00:48:36,599
to give up the pardoning expression the

1119
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:40,319
ghost and and come and come clean but

1120
00:48:48,349 --> 00:48:42,890
again since they are not operating on

1121
00:48:51,140 --> 00:48:48,359
the standards that we go by perhaps they

1122
00:48:55,670 --> 00:48:51,150
camp you know maybe they can only appear

1123
00:48:57,259 --> 00:48:55,680
in our in our world for you know the 20

1124
00:48:59,210 --> 00:48:57,269
minutes at a time or something then they

1125
00:49:01,819 --> 00:48:59,220
fuzz out you know just like on the outer

1126
00:49:03,410 --> 00:49:01,829
limits or some perhaps yeah but before

1127
00:49:05,749 --> 00:49:03,420
we burn up the are which way we're

1128
00:49:07,309 --> 00:49:05,759
really doing quickly tell people once

1129
00:49:09,259 --> 00:49:07,319
again about your websites your books

1130
00:49:12,529 --> 00:49:09,269
what's going on with you and where

1131
00:49:16,059 --> 00:49:12,539
people can find out more okay if you

1132
00:49:19,099 --> 00:49:16,069
want some straightforward interviews

1133
00:49:20,990 --> 00:49:19,109
dvds of my travels around the country

1134
00:49:26,630 --> 00:49:21,000
interviewing some very fascinating

1135
00:49:28,910 --> 00:49:26,640
people my youtube channel is mr. UFOs

1136
00:49:31,820 --> 00:49:28,920
secret files now

1137
00:49:34,460 --> 00:49:31,830
to a couple of the good videos on there

1138
00:49:38,720 --> 00:49:34,470
one is an interview that I did in Sedona

1139
00:49:43,910 --> 00:49:38,730
Arizona with Tom dango now Tom dango has

1140
00:49:46,670 --> 00:49:43,920
a scrapbook full of unbelievable UFO

1141
00:49:48,650 --> 00:49:46,680
photos and orbs these are not just

1142
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:48,660
lights in the sky there's a place in

1143
00:49:53,750 --> 00:49:51,570
Sedona called the Bradshaw ranch which

1144
00:49:56,660 --> 00:49:53,760
was but a number of years ago by the

1145
00:49:59,210 --> 00:49:56,670
military so it's private property but he

1146
00:50:01,610 --> 00:49:59,220
was a friends of the the previous owner

1147
00:50:03,020 --> 00:50:01,620
and they set up camp there they had

1148
00:50:05,240 --> 00:50:03,030
these really really great photographs

1149
00:50:09,260 --> 00:50:05,250
and the details about all the mysterious

1150
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:09,270
things that go around in happens in

1151
00:50:16,790 --> 00:50:13,130
Sedona and also a Paul Davis who was the

1152
00:50:20,660 --> 00:50:16,800
producer of the Roswell Showtime movie

1153
00:50:25,550 --> 00:50:20,670
who has a very interesting video out now

1154
00:50:30,350 --> 00:50:25,560
about the after a life project is about

1155
00:50:32,410 --> 00:50:30,360
his continuing the friendship with the

1156
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:32,420
4e ackerman who was a very famous

1157
00:50:37,220 --> 00:50:34,650
publisher of Famous Monsters magazine

1158
00:50:41,450 --> 00:50:37,230
and who was it atheist but apparently

1159
00:50:45,110 --> 00:50:41,460
for he has returned to contact the pole

1160
00:50:49,010 --> 00:50:45,120
and other friends as well website

1161
00:50:52,970 --> 00:50:49,020
conspiracy journal dot-com and the free

1162
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:52,980
book go to Amazon UFOs wicked this way

1163
00:50:58,460 --> 00:50:56,610
come excellent ok Tim I'm afraid we are

1164
00:51:01,250 --> 00:50:58,470
out of time and is always a great

1165
00:51:05,090 --> 00:51:01,260
pleasure it's gonna be another five

1166
00:51:07,430 --> 00:51:05,100
years I know it it will not be another

1167
00:51:08,720 --> 00:51:07,440
five years man as soon as where I have a

1168
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:08,730
chance that I'm going to contact you

1169
00:51:12,530 --> 00:51:10,530
about booking you for another shows

1170
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:12,540
we've got to continue this all right all

1171
00:51:19,070 --> 00:51:14,610
right well then you come down to earth

1172
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:19,080
and Paul you just watch out for those

1173
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:21,690
cobwebs inside those haunted houses and

1174
00:51:26,690 --> 00:51:23,130
you know maybe I'll run into you at a

1175
00:51:30,230 --> 00:51:26,700
UFO show or something you know I thought

1176
00:51:32,810 --> 00:51:30,240
jeez I haven't been in a studio in

1177
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:32,820
actual radio studio next time I'm going

1178
00:51:37,340 --> 00:51:34,410
to come in through your front door oh

1179
00:51:39,710 --> 00:51:37,350
that would be wonderful and we'll take

1180
00:51:40,940 --> 00:51:39,720
you out to eat afterwards all right okay

1181
00:51:43,310 --> 00:51:40,950
coming tomorrow

1182
00:51:46,030 --> 00:51:43,320
okay we're not on the air tomorrow what

1183
00:51:48,530 --> 00:51:46,040
the hell all right tomorrow is great oh

1184
00:51:50,750 --> 00:51:48,540
you guys are wonderful and say hello to

1185
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:50,760
the audience and everybody in woonsocket